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		<title>Comment on Spaces, Modes and Learning by teacherman79</title>
		<link>http://deangroom.edublogs.org/2008/07/30/spaces-modes-and-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>teacherman79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I could come and tour your school...to really see what you have done...maybe next time you could bring along a flip video and have one of your minions video the tour...that would be sweet...do you have Minions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could come and tour your school&#8230;to really see what you have done&#8230;maybe next time you could bring along a flip video and have one of your minions video the tour&#8230;that would be sweet&#8230;do you have Minions?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Help me ask the right questions! by teacherman79</title>
		<link>http://deangroom.edublogs.org/2008/07/30/help-me-ask-the-right-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-128</link>
		<dc:creator>teacherman79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 15:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks...this is the first time I really looked at the new 2008 NETS.  Using the standards on that page would be an excellent guide to designing questions.  I think asking about how they are utilizing the tools in their lives outside of the classroom is a good idea.  Also, asking whether they are involved in any kind of a learning community outside of class.  You just want one question though...how about

&quot;What learning communities do you belong to outside of the ones that you belong to here in our school?&quot;

sorry, I think I will give another one...

&quot;What contributions have you made to that Learning Community?&quot;

 or

 &quot;How has your involvement in that learning community helped your students?&quot;

Standard 5a
&quot;Teachers continuously improve their professional practice, model lifelong learning, and exhibit leadership in their school and professional community by promoting and demonstrating the effective use of digital tools and resources. Teachers:

a.  participate in local and global learning communities to explore creative applications of technology to improve student learning.&quot;

I am not sure how you plan on doing the survey monkey, but I like reading the surveys that require comments...they take more time to complete...but the responses are fun to read...I am becoming a rambler...ramble on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks&#8230;this is the first time I really looked at the new 2008 NETS.  Using the standards on that page would be an excellent guide to designing questions.  I think asking about how they are utilizing the tools in their lives outside of the classroom is a good idea.  Also, asking whether they are involved in any kind of a learning community outside of class.  You just want one question though&#8230;how about</p>
<p>&#8220;What learning communities do you belong to outside of the ones that you belong to here in our school?&#8221;</p>
<p>sorry, I think I will give another one&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;What contributions have you made to that Learning Community?&#8221;</p>
<p> or</p>
<p> &#8220;How has your involvement in that learning community helped your students?&#8221;</p>
<p>Standard 5a<br />
&#8220;Teachers continuously improve their professional practice, model lifelong learning, and exhibit leadership in their school and professional community by promoting and demonstrating the effective use of digital tools and resources. Teachers:</p>
<p>a.  participate in local and global learning communities to explore creative applications of technology to improve student learning.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am not sure how you plan on doing the survey monkey, but I like reading the surveys that require comments&#8230;they take more time to complete&#8230;but the responses are fun to read&#8230;I am becoming a rambler&#8230;ramble on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spaces, Modes and Learning by Presty</title>
		<link>http://deangroom.edublogs.org/2008/07/30/spaces-modes-and-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Presty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to catch up ftf! Thanks for summarising the day so well for me too. It was terrific to see the evolution and I have to say it does make really clear what you have moved to. I&#039;ll be back ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to catch up ftf! Thanks for summarising the day so well for me too. It was terrific to see the evolution and I have to say it does make really clear what you have moved to. I&#8217;ll be back ..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ed Tech&#8217;s are stupid! by dskmag</title>
		<link>http://deangroom.edublogs.org/2008/07/29/ed-techs-are-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>dskmag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KLA - Key Learning Area. Recognizing poor use is the first step to acknowledging you can do better - and we can always at least try to do better.  QA is hardly a low level activity, and I think you&#039;ll see your students really get a lot from it, and look forward to reading your reflections and theirs.

I agree, IT seems to be focused on keeping a system running, rather than looking at what it could do. But that involves a fundamental change and recognition that change is needed. Directing IT to me is about observing how fast technology is changing learning. It is no longer two things, one facilitating the other.

I think administrators are really struggling to understand this, and really want to have some one acting as a mediator between school and IT. In fact they need someone who can bring the two together, not just pass messages back and forth.

The classroom teacher has an amazing opportunity to deliver powerful practice, but poor use gives kids bad habits, and further fuels the arguement that &#039;teachers&#039; (as a group) are unable to understand technology&#039;s finer technical aspects. The truth is, we don&#039;t need to anymore. QA is a great example of that and in middle school, I think your passion will engage students, and you have a new array of tools to deliver it.

Just don&#039;t expect everyone to go &#039;wow&#039;. It takes a lot of time to even bring a few teachers on board, but no time to get the kids interested.

Its always about the learning, never the bling for me, and extending my classroom - beyond the physical space, and the time spent in class. Its now almost midnight, and I&#039;ve &#039;taught&#039; half a dozen kids tonight via classroom technology I&#039;ve put in place this week.

And I&#039;m happy to do it and keep doing it. An hour spent &#039;googling and pasting&#039; is a waste of everyones time. Maybe this is why so many students are not choosing IT subjects ... they are over low level activities at school, when at home they are engaged in activities and social networks that actually form part of their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KLA &#8211; Key Learning Area. Recognizing poor use is the first step to acknowledging you can do better &#8211; and we can always at least try to do better.  QA is hardly a low level activity, and I think you&#8217;ll see your students really get a lot from it, and look forward to reading your reflections and theirs.</p>
<p>I agree, IT seems to be focused on keeping a system running, rather than looking at what it could do. But that involves a fundamental change and recognition that change is needed. Directing IT to me is about observing how fast technology is changing learning. It is no longer two things, one facilitating the other.</p>
<p>I think administrators are really struggling to understand this, and really want to have some one acting as a mediator between school and IT. In fact they need someone who can bring the two together, not just pass messages back and forth.</p>
<p>The classroom teacher has an amazing opportunity to deliver powerful practice, but poor use gives kids bad habits, and further fuels the arguement that &#8216;teachers&#8217; (as a group) are unable to understand technology&#8217;s finer technical aspects. The truth is, we don&#8217;t need to anymore. QA is a great example of that and in middle school, I think your passion will engage students, and you have a new array of tools to deliver it.</p>
<p>Just don&#8217;t expect everyone to go &#8216;wow&#8217;. It takes a lot of time to even bring a few teachers on board, but no time to get the kids interested.</p>
<p>Its always about the learning, never the bling for me, and extending my classroom &#8211; beyond the physical space, and the time spent in class. Its now almost midnight, and I&#8217;ve &#8216;taught&#8217; half a dozen kids tonight via classroom technology I&#8217;ve put in place this week.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m happy to do it and keep doing it. An hour spent &#8216;googling and pasting&#8217; is a waste of everyones time. Maybe this is why so many students are not choosing IT subjects &#8230; they are over low level activities at school, when at home they are engaged in activities and social networks that actually form part of their lives.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ed Tech&#8217;s are stupid! by Lauren O'Grady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren O'Grady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dean,
It is an interesting post I sense your frustration and hope that you have leadership support so that all teachers eventually can access these facilities.  My main thinking with this is, In education we are the only industry actively integrating ICT everyone else just uses it.  There are no battles in the private sector it is just expected, hopefully we will get to a stage where it is just done and not battled to be &quot;integrated&quot;
Lauren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dean,<br />
It is an interesting post I sense your frustration and hope that you have leadership support so that all teachers eventually can access these facilities.  My main thinking with this is, In education we are the only industry actively integrating ICT everyone else just uses it.  There are no battles in the private sector it is just expected, hopefully we will get to a stage where it is just done and not battled to be &#8220;integrated&#8221;<br />
Lauren</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kids say the funniest things by dskmag</title>
		<link>http://deangroom.edublogs.org/2008/07/28/kids-say-the-funniest-things/comment-page-1/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>dskmag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Jeff, QA is Inquiry based learning. There is a scaffold and a definite desired destination over a number of planned steps. QA is awesome IMO, and a cousin of Project Based Learning, but not the same. I don;t wanna hear about Montana! Say Hi to Joanie and the kids!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Jeff, QA is Inquiry based learning. There is a scaffold and a definite desired destination over a number of planned steps. QA is awesome IMO, and a cousin of Project Based Learning, but not the same. I don;t wanna hear about Montana! Say Hi to Joanie and the kids!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Help me ask the right questions! by Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you going to use something like a 5 point Likert scale such as strongly agree, agree, unsure, disagree, strongly disagree.  Maybe something like:
I use the same communication tools at school and at home.
I use similar communication tools at school and at home.
I have the choice of appropriate ICT tools. (may also specify KLAs)

Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you going to use something like a 5 point Likert scale such as strongly agree, agree, unsure, disagree, strongly disagree.  Maybe something like:<br />
I use the same communication tools at school and at home.<br />
I use similar communication tools at school and at home.<br />
I have the choice of appropriate ICT tools. (may also specify KLAs)</p>
<p>Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Help me ask the right questions! by Annabel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe if you asked them something like:

What tech tool helps you collaborate best with you colleagues / classmates?

you are getting them to consider to reflect on collaboration but also finding out what sort of stuff the teachers are getting them to do - ie banging out a word document with their Shaklepeare play is not really a skirt lifting idea.

Of course, you would have to follow it up with a question like:
Which tools do you feel most skilled at using? and give them a few options - good way to gauge which ones they doo and do not know. Also, put ion a few fake ones as a measure to help validate responses.

How&#039;s that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe if you asked them something like:</p>
<p>What tech tool helps you collaborate best with you colleagues / classmates?</p>
<p>you are getting them to consider to reflect on collaboration but also finding out what sort of stuff the teachers are getting them to do &#8211; ie banging out a word document with their Shaklepeare play is not really a skirt lifting idea.</p>
<p>Of course, you would have to follow it up with a question like:<br />
Which tools do you feel most skilled at using? and give them a few options &#8211; good way to gauge which ones they doo and do not know. Also, put ion a few fake ones as a measure to help validate responses.</p>
<p>How&#8217;s that?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Help me ask the right questions! by elaine Talbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>elaine Talbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,

Does your system have its own ICT tool?  This would guide.

Also, you can use the Institute of Teacher&#039;s material. There must be some ICT refs.

Finally, what about guidance given by Board of Studies in ICT docs and syllabuses, various tests.

Elaine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>Does your system have its own ICT tool?  This would guide.</p>
<p>Also, you can use the Institute of Teacher&#8217;s material. There must be some ICT refs.</p>
<p>Finally, what about guidance given by Board of Studies in ICT docs and syllabuses, various tests.</p>
<p>Elaine</p>
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		<dc:creator>Quest Atlantis &#171; From Mr. &#8220;A&#8221; to Mr. &#8220;Z&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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